Friday, October 13, 2006


Sorry, I just couldn't resist the impulse to blog on Adrian's blog. This is Lane. Adrian allowed me to go onto his blog in order to install the recent comments hack. Now you can see the 8 most recent comments listed in between the previous posts and the archives. Let me know if any of you would like to have this quite appetizing feature on your blog. You know where to find me. Hehe.

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At 10/13/2006 11:50:00 AM , Blogger Adrian C. Keister said...

By the way, folks, I would not recommend switching to beta yet (I noticed, Adrian that you ahve the option). The reason for this is that a. You cannot reverse it, and b. the template doesn't act the same way. I have already experimented with it, and things just don't seem to publich correctly off the template. However, it needs more experimenting than I have been able to do. One should try an experiment blog to see if one could publish certain features in the template. Beta does have some great features. It is a lot more intuitive about putting things in the sidebar. And it has categories!!! (Known in blogger as labels). This is the single most useful way of organizing your blog entries. This is Lane, in case anyone wondered (using his ID).

At 10/13/2006 12:04:00 PM , Blogger Adrian C. Keister said...

Er, thanks, Lane. ;-)]


At 10/13/2006 01:02:00 PM , Blogger Susan said...

Haha. Just this morning Hannah and I have been logging into each other's e-mail accounts (her at UGA, me at home) and changing each other's GTalk away messages :). So I thought this was funny.

At 10/13/2006 02:42:00 PM , Blogger Adrian C. Keister said...

And Lane didn't even bother to use the appropriate conventions for my blog: Times font, large size, and double-justification (no pun involving N. T. Wright intended, I assure you). So I had to go back and change poor Lane's post to conform.

In Christ.

At 10/14/2006 07:33:00 AM , Blogger une_fille_d'Ève said...

Good for you, Lane! Adrian's blog needed a little mischief added to it.
I had so much fun when I logged into Susan's account on her birthday earlier this year to surprise her... hehehe.
Poor Lane's post is right! You changed it! How horrible. A little variety wouldn't have been so bad, would it??

At 10/14/2006 09:45:00 AM , Anonymous MG said...

Hmm. Why isn't Hannah's latest comment registering on your "recent comments" sidebar? Is there a glitch?

At 10/14/2006 10:22:00 AM , Blogger Adrian C. Keister said...

I have no idea, Mrs. G, why Hannah's comment doesn't appear in the sidebar. I have examined that code, because there appeared to be a glitch; but I fixed it by simply refreshing the screen. This is another thing entirely. Certainly, it should be there. The code is complicated, though, and therefore subject to error.

In Christ.

At 10/16/2006 04:39:00 PM , Blogger Adrian C. Keister said...

Reply to Hannah.

A little variety would be the end of the world. Everything must be the SAME. Everyone must think the same, look the same, have the same abilities, write the same - *blinks quickly* Sorry, I must have been temporarily hypnotized by a communist... evil person (sorry about the redundancy there; communist automatically means evil). You've got variety already, don't you? I mean look at the immense variety of people commenting on my blog. You've got Keisters and Garrisons. Isn't that enough? (white, European descent, math people, Reformed; yep, definitely diverse)

In Christ.

At 10/16/2006 09:34:00 PM , Blogger Susan said...

Oh, that is funny. Yep, you're really bringing in a diverse crowd, Adrian. Of course, past reader surveys indicate that my blog group is not all that diverse either. Birds of a feather certainly flock together.

Assuming Lane is blond (Are you identical?), your commenters are even more undiverse ;). Also, our ancestry is largely German, so we can be even more specific than simply "European." ;)

At 10/17/2006 10:34:00 AM , Blogger Mr. Baggins said...

We are blond. We are identical. You will be assimilated....Oops, lapsed into Trek mood.

At 10/17/2006 11:13:00 AM , Blogger Susan said...

Hehe. Too funny!

I've never understood the attraction to Star Trek :-P. Now Star Wars, while completely warped in philosophy, has a draw for me.

Hannah and I always wanted to be identical twins. And we got asked if we were very frequently growing up. . . even now sometimes(!).

At 10/17/2006 05:02:00 PM , Blogger zan said...

Wow. Lane and Adrian are identical twins? I knew you guys were twins, but not identical. That is pretty cool.

Love Trek and Star Wars. Don't know why. I laugh at them now, more than take them seriously.

At 10/17/2006 07:04:00 PM , Anonymous MG said...


Hannah and I have given Susan sufficient grief about asking if you were blond. The photo says it all.

At 10/17/2006 08:44:00 PM , Blogger Susan said...

Okay, okay, so enlarged, the photo shows him blond, Mother and Sister. I see that now. But I of course didn't think of that before. *primps own blonde hairs*

At 10/18/2006 10:40:00 AM , Blogger Adrian C. Keister said...

Yes, we're identical. Sometimes we can even finish each other's _________. *cues Lane*

However, if someone were to ask the following question: when your twin is hurt, do you feel - NO!

If you were to ask the same tired old question everyone asks: did you ever play tricks on people when you were growing up? We'd answer, "We didn't have to. They played tricks on themselves."

Now that I've eliminated the standard, boring questions, have you any others? ;-)] Yes, we're both blond. And, Susan, the very fact that you didn't think of enlarging the photo of Lane shows that you're, well, blond. ;-)]

Very fun Borg imitation there, Lane. Hadn't thought of that. Interesting anecdote: one of my best friends from VT is an identical twin. She married an identical twin. When we went out to dinner with a few other friends, we could rightly claim that non-twins were in the minority! That was kinda fun.

In Christ.

At 10/19/2006 07:27:00 AM , Blogger Susan said...

Funny dinner story. But surely you're not elitist when it comes to your twin status? ;)

Okay, I do have a twin question, and I won't ask the "standard boring" ones you aleady covered, though this one falls in that category, no doubt. How did your dear mother keep you two apart when you were first born? We've known many sets of twins (both identical and fraternal) over the years, and I remember one mom telling us that she distinguished her identical twin boys when they were first born by painting a toenail of one of the boys :). Poor guy has to hear that story now!

Also, I've wondered, who is older?

At 10/19/2006 08:27:00 AM , Anonymous MG said...

And, are there other twins in your family tree?
And, did you have the same interests growing up?
And, did/do people have a hard time telling you apart?
And, are you the same height?
And, did you dress alike?
And, do you get tired of twin questions? ;-)

At 10/19/2006 03:16:00 PM , Blogger Mr. Baggins said...

I'll spare Adrian the pain of answering these questions. ;-) I wouldn't say we're elitist. But when it comes to being around other people, it is just fun sometimes to be in the majority, since twins are so rare. Our mother usually told us apart quite easily. Adrian's personality and mine are really quite different. Adrian is exceedingly, um, linear. I am exceedingly, um, not. Plus, we are mirror image twins, which means that in many physical ways, we are opposite: Adrian is right-handed, I am ambidextrous (though I do some things right-handed, I do many things left-handed), Adrian's swirl is on his right side, mine is on the left, Adrian's face is a bit longer and thinner (the pear) than mine (the peach); and a few other things. Adrian used to suck his right thumb; I sucked my left. I am older by 13 minutes (there is some dispute about the exact number of minutes; Adrian *insists* that it is *only* 13 minutes.

To answer Mother Garrison Dear's questions, there is a set of fraternal twins on our father's side (twin girls: they look *nothing* alike; only fraternal twins can be genetic, whereas identical twins are an "accident"). We had somewhat similar interests growing up. Adrian was much more like Dad than I was. Adrian followed the science mold of our family: Grandpa was an electrical engineer, Dad was a physicist, Uncle Brad was a Physicist, brother Arne was a chemical engineer, sister Alynn was a mathematician, Adrian is a mathematical physicist, and I am a music major and theologian. But we both enjoyed great literature, great music (slightly different tastes in music, but both classical: Adrian loved Beethoven, Bach, Handel, Khatchaturian; I loved Bach Brahms, Liszt, Wagner), and theology. We still share these interests.

People only have a hard time telling us apart if they meet us at the same time, because then they are struck by the similarities. If they meet first one, and then the other, then they are looking for the differences, and see those better.

I am one and a half inches taller than Adrian (I grew an inch last year (!)).

No, we do not dress alike, most of the time. Mother Dear used to make clothes for us, and they were always identical. We have many pictures of such identical clothing. But for a while now, I am usually the peacock, liking to dress well. Adrian usually looks presentable, but sometimes is a bit geeky. He's a lot better than he used to be. He used to wear green sweat-pants, with a black t-shirt, and a red-plaid flannel shirt with sleeves rolled up unbuttoned and untucked. Mercifully, he does not inflict this kind of pain on the world anymore.

We get much more tired of twin questions if they are unintelligent, as opposed to such questions as yours.

At 10/19/2006 08:54:00 PM , Blogger Susan said...

Someone had way too much fun answering Mother Dear's questions ;). I didn't want to badger you two with questions, so I only asked two, but it looks like you don't mind :).

I know you're not elite about being twins. I was teasing :).

I knew Arne was technically minded, but I didn't know Alynn was a mathematician. How fun! Your family is just as weird as mine - in a good way :). Is Lane your middle name, by any chance, Lane? I've wondered how you ended up being the only non "A" name in your family.

I've never heard of a 28 year old growing an inch. That's interesting.

I'm the "peacock" in my family, I guess. I could identify 10 colors when I was 18, and haven't stopped paying attention to colors and such since, on clothing and else. I feel considerably "dressed down" in a jean skirt. Hehe. I prefer cotton blouses and rayon skirts on a daily basis.

Adrian, are you going to wring the neck of your twin for revealing your fashion un-sense? Oh, what a good laugh we had! Green sweat-pants, black t-shirt, and a red-plaid flannel shirt with sleeves rolled up unbuttoned and untucked? That is awful! I'm glad you've apparently improved somewhat. Take some fashion lessons from your twin, perhaps? ;)

Thanks for answering our queries, Lane :).

At 10/19/2006 09:58:00 PM , Blogger Adrian C. Keister said...

Why, thank you, Lane. You took (stripped?) the words right out of my mouth.

Yeah, whatever Lane said. That.

No, Susan, I am not going to wring Lane's neck. He's quite right. I'm much better now. Although, it's really Sarah, Lane's wife, that has helped more than anyone else. I just wear outfits that she's approved, and I look great! Er, well, as well as I can look, I suppose. I still like flannel shirts rolled up, unbuttoned and untucked, but I pick colors that go together better. Plus, it's usually only for quite informal times.

So you're the peacock of the family, eh? That's interesting. You could only identify 10 colors when you were 18? I'm not in on the ins and outs of colors, but I rather fancy I could identify more than 10 colors when I was 18. I was completely incompetant when it came to matching colors up, but I could identify them, more or less. Care to clarify?

In Christ.

At 10/19/2006 10:22:00 PM , Blogger Susan said...

Oh, right, I missed an important word in that sentence :). I meant to say that I could identify 10 colors when I was 18 months old. Yeah, I mastered quite a few more by 18 years ;). No wonder you were confused! Learning my colors early was just a gateway to becoming obsessed with color combinations and such :). Now it bothers me if people refer burgundy as magenta, or to navy blue as midnight blue.

Hannah is more like you in dress, I think, Adrian. Her choices would mortify me when we were younger. I, like the good older sister, always made sure to tell her that pink did not go with red, nor did stripes with polka dots, or running shoes with a skirt, or . . . *smiles sweetly at Sister Dear*

And good for Sarah :).

At 10/20/2006 02:44:00 PM , Blogger Mr. Baggins said...

Lane is my first name (Benton is my middle name). They wanted to make sure that Adrian's name and my name sounded nothing alike. It is absolute torture to twins to be named something like "Lane" and "Blane." It is a recipe for confusion and chaos. *Nothing* rhymes with "Adrian." Trust me, I've looked.

At 10/20/2006 02:57:00 PM , Anonymous MG said...

Ah, yes, our little Miss "knows 10 colors at 18 months." She failed to tell you that, at that age, those were practically the only words she could say, besides "Daddy." Not even "Mommy." *sniff* She called me "Daddy" until she was 18 months. (But then, so did Ben and Hannah.) I'm not holding a grudge or anything. No way. But there's nothing quite like having a toddler name all those colors correctly, and then you point to the mother and say, "and who's that?" and she says, "Daddy." I'll get over it some day.

And, Lane, I'm happy to hear your first name isn't Dadrian or something like that. I agree about the rhyming names. Ugh.

At 10/20/2006 03:37:00 PM , Anonymous Ashley said...

Okay I hopped over here to read about the comments hack that was mentioned on Susan's blog and cracked up as I read this. When Susan asked if Lane was blond, I thought, "But isn't that a picture of him right there?" hehe

I love twins; I hope to have some one day. I was delighted when I found out that identical twins aren't genetic because there is NO history of twins in my family. I enjoyed reading about you (Adrian) and Lane, and your patiently answering all those annoying twin questions. :-) I have a lot of interest in the study of twins who have grown up separately and met years later, to discover common interests, etc.

Oh, and I'm happy to report that in the past 4 years since Susan was 18, she now knows fifteen colors. We're all very proud of her.

At 10/20/2006 05:20:00 PM , Blogger Susan said...

Lane and Blane. . . or Adrian and Dadrian. Wow. Yep, I think your parents' choices were better :). I used to be obsessed with twins, and had all sorts of clever pairs of names picked out: Michael and Michelle, Michael and Mitchell, Timothy and Titus, Donald and Donna, Ashley and Ansley, Justin and Justina, etc. Yep, I wish I could find that (non) creative list, just for laughs. Heh. Mom has slowly convinced me over the years that different names can be helpful.

I would like to clear my reputation on this whole "What color is Lane's hair?" question. I will have all know that I read blogs using Google Reader, which means that when I click on a post, it goes directly to that post, so the comments are displayed without pictures. So, ha! . . . The fact that I'd previously seen Lane's pictures (and did not think to examine it) has *nothing* to do with this conversation on the sad state of my hair (brain?) color.

I'm hoping to master 20 colors by the time I'm 25. That's the goal, anyway. I'll keep everyone posted on my progress.

At 10/23/2006 08:08:00 PM , Blogger Adrian C. Keister said...

Ah, yes. What in coding theory they would call "minimum distance between code words." If you can increase that minumum distance (usually measured by the number of differing characters in the two codewords, called the Hamming distance), then your code is better, because there will be less chance for error.

Hmm. That's no excuse. If you've seen Lane's hair color on any picture, you'd have no excuse for forgetting such an important fact.

You can keep everyone posted on your progress, and I'll alert the media. I'm sure it's a newsworthy story, right?

In Christ.

At 10/24/2006 12:06:00 PM , Blogger Susan said...

Thank you for alerting the media, Adrian. If you could arrange a press conference for me, that would be great. Perhaps I could also do a color-wheel signing event?

At 10/25/2006 10:29:00 AM , Blogger zan said...

I think you guys' hair color looks a little reddish, like mine. A strawberry blonde.

Adrian and Lane are very unusual names. Are they family names? Rhyming names are lame. I also think that naming all your kids with the letter "J" like the Duggars do is not that great of an idea.

Here is another twin question. Did your mom deliver you by c-section? I always wonder that. One was hard enough to get out. I can't imagine pushing two out. What a huge bummer.

My grandfather had twin brothers, but that is about it for history. Twins would be neat, but one at a time is enough for me.

At 10/27/2006 09:57:00 AM , Blogger Adrian C. Keister said...

Reply to Susan.

*smiles* There's no topping that wit of yours!

Reply to Zan.

Adrian and Lane are not, to my knowledge, family names. Well, they are now, but not before. ;-)] I don't know about first letters all being different. There are three A's in my generation. My sister Alynn named her children Thomas Jathan, Kesse Lauren, Kyrie Jo, Kayren Michael, Lorien (?) and Aleya Rose. Three K's in a row. I think they work pretty well.

In Christ.

At 10/28/2006 11:04:00 AM , Blogger Susan said...

I'm with you, Zan, that all the Duggar names are confusing! I'm not opposed to repeat initials, per se, but not 16 of them. I've always thought an alphabetical naming scheme is a great idea. Then there would be no repeat initials, and it's easier for people to keep the children in proper age order. Just don't do alphabetical and Biblical names. . . or you may end up with a son named Frankincense ;). Hey, you already have G and H, so just continue with I :).

I'm impressed you remembered the middle names of five of Alynn's children, Adrian. That's pretty good. Ben always had a hard time just keeping the first names of cousins straight :). I love the name Lorien. It reminds me of Lord of the Rings :).

My parents both come from families of 6 children. It's a fun number, though not nearly as fun as 12 of course. But then, 6 is a perfect number. Hmm.

At 10/28/2006 09:13:00 PM , Blogger Adrian C. Keister said...

The name Lorien should remind you of Lord of the Rings. Alynn named her daughter after the woods Lothlorien.

So I imagine you have loads of cousins, eh? That's always fun. I have six cousins on Dad's side (one died a few years ago from a biking accident) and eight cousins on Mom's side. Of the six cousins on Dad's side, three are married (Aunt Holly's), three unmarried (Uncle Brad's). On Mom's side, all of Aunt Nancy's three offspring are married; I don't know exactly how many of Aunt Carol's five children are married. At least two, I think. One might be divorced. Aunt Carol's family is a bit strange; I don't think many of them are Christians. I think two at least of Aunt Nancy's are Christian. On Dad's side, I really don't know. I used to keep up a lot better with all my cousins. It's getting to be more of a chore just to keep up with my nephews and nieces! My nephew James (Lane's younger) just turned one yesterday. That I do know. *Happy Birthday, James!* 12 would be great fun, indeed. Cheaper by the dozen, to be sure. :-)]

In Christ.

At 10/30/2006 12:59:00 PM , Blogger Susan said...

I wondered if Alynn purposely named Lorien after Lothlorien. That's fun :). I think Elanor would be my top choice for a Lord of the Rings inspired name, but Lorien is also very pretty.

How many nieces and nephews do you have? I've counted at least 10, or 11. Lane has two (Ila and James), Alynn has six, and Arne has at least two, or technically at least three, if you used the term "oldest" - referring to Jordan(?) - correctly.

Actually, my parents' siblings averaged fewer than 2 a piece, so I *only* have 19 cousins (18 still living; one had a congenital problem) - there are 13 living grandchildren on my mom's side, and 11 on my dad's. In fact, some of my mom's family is "zero population growth," ironically.

Our extended family is mostly non-Christian, or liberal and questionably-Christian :(. My mom's family is on the other side of the "great Presbyterian divide" ;). She grew up UPC, before the PCA was formed, and the liberal branch was renamed PCUSA. We're still very close to our extended family, though. My mom's family, especially, is very close-knit, even though they're spread all over the US. We try to make it up to Indiana at least twice a year, and always enjoy seeing cousins and such. Younger cousins are fun :).

At 10/31/2006 09:13:00 AM , Blogger zan said...


At only age 25, I am a great-aunt. I just became one last month. Big families are fun.

Lorien is such a cool name! Now I have yet another name to consider if I ever have a girl. So many good girl names, (*glances at my two boys*) so few girls in my family. : (

BTW, I LOVE having boys.

At 10/31/2006 09:15:00 PM , Blogger Susan said...

*pauses to figure that relationship out* So, in other words, one of your nieces or nephews has a child, Zan? Neat. Yeah, another fun dynamic of large families is when the aunt/uncle is younger than a niece or nephew. I've seen that before :).

At 11/01/2006 11:19:00 AM , Blogger Adrian C. Keister said...

Reply to Susan.

I have three nephews and nine nieces. Arne's kids: Jordan, Lauren, Holly, and Johanna (the last a girl adopted from China). Alynn's kids: Jathan, Kesse, Kyrie, Kayren, Lorien, Aleya. Lane's kids: Ila, James.

It is hard when your extended family is not Christian, or does not share very similar values to what you do. It's very easy to drift apart, like I have. I remember being good friends with my cousin Julie for a long time, when I was a lot younger. I don't even know if she's married, though I do know she had a boyfriend at one time.

Why is it that a post by my brother Lane on my blog has more comments than most of my own posts? I can't figure that one out... ;-)]

In Christ.

At 11/01/2006 12:03:00 PM , Blogger zan said...

I guess Lane's posts are just more interesting. ; )


My nephew on my husband's side fathered a child with his girlfriend. They aren't interested in getting married and their parents don't do much to encourage them. Both kids (they are 20 and 18 and make my 2 yr old look like Einstein when it comes to maturity) were going to get married before the baby came. When they stood before the judge he wouldn't marry them because the girl, when asked by the judge, couldn't give the judge a good reason for getting married. How about, "I love him and I'm pregnant"? I hate to call people stupid but these kids are lame brains and I feel so bad for the baby. They treat the baby like a doll and the father doesn't want much to do with the baby because he is just too cool to change diapers. However, he insisted that the boy be named after him. It was hard to control my anger at the situation when I met them. So this is where our hard-earned tax dollars support- irresponsible kids who have kids and won't take care of them. They are both incredibly lazy, too. Obviously, I don't think they are Christians. It is hard when family stray far from Christian values. Not much to talk about when that happens.

At 11/01/2006 04:13:00 PM , Blogger Susan said...

12 nieces and nephews :). What fun! You're making me jealous. I have none (obviously) *sniff*

Why is Lane's post more popular? I'll let you figure that one out. . . ;)

That's a sad situation, Zan :(. I've witnessed those types of situations before, and they're hard.


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